Sunday, June 15, 2014

Flavour Combo's........

Just been reading (and posting) at a thread over at Gotmead about somebody trying to come up with a flavour of mead that reflects some of the local stuff.

Well that idea is laudable. Yet IMO, needs a lot of consideration from many angles.

For example, what is the base flavour idea taken from ? How does the idea translate from other products ? Can it be added to an acceptable level and at what stage in the making process ? Does the flavour have a track record for being used in other products of a similar type ? Is there the possibility of "cultural acceptance" or will it bring other stuff to mind ? Etc etc......

Is it from fruit ? spices ? herbs ?

If fruit, then what else is made using it ? Will possible consumers like it and/or think it a good idea ?

What sort of quantity will be needed ? Will you be able to get the flavour into the recipe easily or will it add a massive complexity to the making that is hard to control/manage ?

Will other products that use that flavour help it's acceptance to new consumers of your batch/recipe or is it likely you'll end up repeating the phrase "well, I like it" ?

It's very easy to focus on a flavour because you like it, but then the difficulty of how to incorporate it into a batch to provide a suitable level can be an entirely different matter......

Chocolate is a good example. Western society understands it if its presented in its usual sweetened form, often mixed in with some sort of cream/milk/dairy element, but other forms of it can be vvv hard to translate.

It's found in liqueurs often but they are usually of a creamy nature and equally often contain some sort of complimentary spirit/liquor type taste. Plus they're routinely quite sweet.

Whereas, beers say, that contain "chocolate notes" are a much harder sell.....

Some herbal flavours can present aroma that makes the consumer think of toilet or bathroom cleaning products - whether that's to do with the actual flavour or whether its because thats how its been marketed at us, I don't know.

I recently read of someone using Basil, was it like a tincture to make an extract type thing or in a mead as a methyglin ? Can't remember, but suffice to say, Basil conjures up thoughts of wonderful Italian inspired tomato sauce recipes etc...... so maybe needs more thought/consideration.......

Fruits are much easier generally, but they too, can have some difficulties. Do you want a fermented change in the taste similar to the comparison of grape juice to wine ? Just with the idea and/or aroma of the original fruit ? Or are you aiming at a more "fruit cordial" type taste ? say something like a blueberry or cranberry juice that has some hint of honey and an alcoholic kick to it ?

These are all very valid points for consideration. Without that level of thought you are, IMO, condemned to making batches of mediocre tasting brew of limited merit and nothing to recommend to others.........

TTFN.......

Saturday, May 17, 2014

Another link......

I make no assumption as to the quality or age of the linked info......

http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/utils/getfile/collection/honeyboard/id/221/filename/189.pdf

Another link from the same forum post........

http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/utils/getfile/collection/honeyboard/id/187/filename/205.pdf

Links to various info......

Gonna try and start using this like a memo pad, so when I find any handy or what I think might be interesting info, I'll post it as a link here

Starting with this......

http://www.beesource.com/resources/usda/honey-composition-and-properties/

Sunday, March 23, 2014

Some interesting info about using Oak, especially in meads but also other wines etc......

Oskaars Gotmead thread here. Medsen Fey's link in the original Gotmead thread, to the "Oak influence on Making and Maturing Wine" from Wine business monthly mag - it seems you have to be a registered member, but that seems to be a free registration - I'm just off to do that while I'm posting these links....... A barrel supplier in the US, that Medsen has posted a link to..... Another of Medsens links to the "Art of Oak" in "wines and vines" - it's a 2 part article, and the second part is found here..... Iowa State University site link about oak ageing red wine, but the info is also relevant to meads when it comes to some of the detail on oak/wood extraction. Again, linked originally in the Gotmead thread by Medsen. This one is about making barrels for Jim Beam - it's a youtube vid posted in the GM thread by afdoty. It's an overview of barrel making. Another article posted by Medsen about oak etc..... Another "supplier" type liink taken from the GM thread. This one is from "New World Wine Maker and deals with using oak chips etc, again, originally posted by Medsen...... This one is one that Medsen attached at Gotmead. It's in the original thread linked above, but I'm trying to get as many of the links here, as it's amazing that the benefits oak can bring to meads etc danr posted this, it seems it's from morewine, their oak information sheet. Ok, so that's about it for links from that thread (the first one linked at the top). I have viewed them all, and hopefully remembered to credit everyone necessary. I want to post the info as it's a good reminder for me to read up (again) about this. I'm not sure if it's ok to just cut and paste the info into a new page/document here, even with full credits etc. I've tried where possible to point the links toward the original locations etc. Either way, it's all pretty interesting stuff (it is to me anyway) and hopefully explains enough info so if you're thinking of using oak for a batch, you'll be able to decide what and how you want to use it, and in what form (dust, shavings, chips, cubes, staves, spirals, etc etc etc).

Saturday, March 22, 2014

a link that was posted over at gotmead.....

a good link originally posted by Doug (I think), about paring meads with food.

Sunday, March 16, 2014

Useful drums/containers......

Last week, I was looking around ebay as I needed something for water storage. The intention is to recycle rain water. I have a reverse osmosis filter, to be self sufficient in the "softest" water I can manage. I say soft water, in the sense that it will be low in calcium/magnesium salts as I can manage (our local water is medium/high in calcium as the area sits on a thick strata of chalk). The RO filter isn't strictly necessary but should keep other elements picked up in the rain i.e. the stuff that is atmospheric and makes "acid" rain, out of the supply - will not entirely but to low enough levels not to be an issue. We have a water meter on the mains supply into the house, so presuming that with the RO filter, only about 20 to 25% of water in, makes it through the membrane in the filter, it would be prohibitively expensive to use mains water, hence recycling rain. I don't need huge amounts, so the 30 gallons a day capacity of the filter should be fine. I want it for home brewing and "erindoors" will benefit as it's good for her orchids too - no residual chlorine build up in the plants, which is known to be an issue with utility water.
These drums are what I found. A very good price at £9 each, though the chap who was selling only does them as "collect in person". So yesterday was a 2 hour round trip to get them. They still work out cheaper than other options like that. They are food grade and were used for Olives in brine originally. The labels list olives, water, salt and tartaric acid as an acidifier, so should be easily washed out. about 220 to 225 litre capacity. Very good quality. All I've to do now is to get one of them set up to a down pipe from the shed guttering. I've bought a few pumps so that I can run the RO filter and then move the water round without the hassle of trying to move them when they're full (they'd be about a quarter tonne full). Ha! I could even likely use them as fermenters if I wanted too, but I don't routinely make batches that size as they'd be costly, and given that I don't have a commercial license, I'll give that a miss for now........

Sunday, March 02, 2014

Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh !

What is it with "some" new makers, who seem to think that just reading instructions, posts, or other guidance, that that is all they have to do to answer questions etc ? I'm thinking of one particular, new contributor - at an unnamed forum. The forum is peopled with users who're brilliant. Some of them have encyclopaedic knowledge about making meads. Not only do they have mega-extensive knowledge of the making, they are some of the most helpful fountains of knowledge I've experienced. Yet this particular n00b, arrives, makes one batch and starts giving it the "know it all" shit. When all it confirms is that this particular prick knows how to read and how to use search ! You've been making meads for 10 fucking minutes ! WTF do you know, other than what you've gleaned from reading other peoples advice, guidance and/or suggestions ? Not a fucking lemon! When you've been making an average of 30 gallons per annum (that means "a year" you naive, whining prick), for 9 or 10 years, with all the added shit that goes with that i.e. sourcing certain ingredients, testing, tasting, measuring etc, then maybe I'll lay off, making corrections - to both your dumb comments, your shitty attitude and your lack of manners/netiquette, in respect of others....... Until then, shut the fuck up. Make some batches. Respect is earned and not yours by right - that's the kind of attitude of a naive, whining kid.......... If you do, per chance, have some hidden expertise, then that's great. Don't make such fatuous comments as is currently the case.... You know who you are..... you complete fuckwit.......

Saturday, February 22, 2014

"Has anyone used this company" ?

Some time ago, loetz, a newish member over at Gotmead forums, asked the title question. He posted a link, which turned out to be a honey dealer in Germany (loetz give his location as Austria). So on the basis of the question, I had to say no, but this morning.........
It was a bit of a trial initially, as the linked website was only in German, but on saying that on the forum, loetz was kind enough to re-link it through the Google translate facility (the entire site/page ? not sure as I've only sussed out how to use that with a single page or paragraph). The fact that they've only currently got their website set up for selling/delivering to German addresses hasn't proved to be an issue either. As you can see from this (hopefully), it does make for interesting reading, despite the occasional short comings of Google translate. It enabled me to email them and ask. Their shop staff were very helpful, sending me details and a quote for both the honey and shipping. I know roughly how much honey can cost for a varietal honey, and their quote for €112.23 which included all the tax and shipping element, still worked out reasonable. Obviously it would have been a bit cheaper if I'd ordered a 25kg bucket instead of a 12.5kg bucket, on a price per kilo basis, and likely a little more on the shipping. Either way, it worked out fine, and after a short delay of making the payment (which was equally as painless, just a phonecall to my bank, and supplying the Walter Lang swift and DBAN codes, it was all sorted. I emailed them to say about the payment being on it's way and that my bank expected it to take 2 working days (I called my bank on the sunday). The shop people from Walter Lang were kind enough to notify me that they'd received the payment by the monday afternoon and it was shipped on the tuesday. The delivery people carded me on the thursday and I've been to the post office (the delivery this end was attempted by ParcelForce, and under their "convenient delivery" arrangements, they left it at the post office) this morning to collect it. Overall, it's been excellent to deal with the people at Walter Lang (who now seem to have got an english language bit on their website - well done, brilliant). I'll happily deal with them again. For the varieties I can't find locally....... As for the honey itself ? It's not as dark as the descriptions that are sometimes posted around the bazaars in respect of Buckwheat honey, but this batch is from the Ukraine. It's similar to the bucket that Male (a member over at Gotmead, who's in Poland) helped me to get a couple of years back. Less like the descriptions of the stuff from the US. Certainly not "farmyard" in character. In the case of the two buckets I've had/got, it's not so sweet tasting as many varieties, has almost a malt-like character to it. I'm looking forward to making a traditional batch from it. Someone said that at last years Mazer cup, there was a Polish Buckwheat tradtional that did very well, producing an excellent mead....... Pip pip !

Saturday, January 25, 2014

Comments etc....

Just got my finger out and actually see if anyone had posted comments (noticed a while back there was a few bits of spam......) Brilliant. Some good ones there. Nothing rubbish or rude etc - ha! any that were offensive or spammy shite would just get deleted anyway :D Sorry if it's taken me a while to actually read them, but I want to try and be a little more conscientious....... (watch this space) The only thing I'm not sure about is where Marek said about making a "Blackthorn melomel" ? I presume that meant using the Sloe's for the fruit, or was that to make it like the French recipe where they use the leaves etc ? I'm gonna go with the fruit, as I might actually be able to get time to pick some this year - should have been out last, but as the bloody builders still had the place in pieces, that was out of the question ! Hey ho! shit happens

Young's "High Alcohol/Dessert Wine" yeasts - some excellent info.......

One of the members over at Gotmead, who can't find much by way of wine yeast locally, emailed Young's to ask them.

They were kind enough to attach the following text, by way of a .pdf file attachment.

Dessert / High Alcohol Wine Yeast 5g

Young’s yeast’s range is the result of over 2 years worth of research, testing and analysis of commercial yeast strains.
Yeast strains from the leading manufacturers world-wide were screened to determine which of those performed best
for home beer, wine & cider making, and selections were based on quality not price. Our commitment to this quality
is shown in the fact that each batch of yeast we receive is checked microbially and also fermented out before it’s
packed – this ensures the quality is consistent in every sachet, and every bottle you produce.

Species: Saccharomyces Bayanus

Young’s Dessert / High Alcohol Wine Yeast is an exceptional strain that allows optimum wine quality to be achieved
with each and every brew. It’s properties include an ability to ferment up to 18% ABV, rapid clearing, low foam
formation, and the ability to ferment as low as 10°C means this is a reliable and easy to handle strain. You can expect
a taste and aroma profile that will bring the natural grape flavours to the fore, it will also add a definite weight and
depth to your wine, making it perfect for high alcohol sweet wines. Excellent across numerous varietals producing
classic, true to type sweet, flavoursome wines with balanced mouthfeel and smooth finish, exuding the baked fruit
flavours synonymous with high alcohol wines. Making well structured, clean wines that are a wonderful accompaniment
to many after dinner treats is what this strain does beautifully.

Uses

Youngs Dessert / High Alcohol Wine Yeast is a excellent all round strain, perfect choice for high alcohol, dessert and
fortified wines.

Technical Information

Alcohol tolerance: 18% v/v
SO tolerance: High
Foaming: Low
Low production of fusel oils
Viability: >1.0x 10 CFU/g
Wild yeast: <1 br="" million="" per=""> Total bacteria: <5 br="" million="" per="">
Instructions

This is a controlled, consistent and reliable yeast with capability to ferment between 10-30°C, though best results are
achieved when temperature remains stable between 20-24°C. It is important that the must remains above 20°C for at
least the first 24 hours after the yeast is pitched, this will help to avoid bacterial contamination and extended lag time.
The sachet contents (5g) is designed to be pitched into 23 litres of must. This can be done directly, by sprinkling on to
the surface and standing for 15 minutes before mixing in thoroughly for a further 2 minutes or by rehydrating before
addittion - reccommended for high alcohol wines. To rehydrate, mix the dry yeast into 100ml of 40°C water and stir
periodically over a 10-12 minute period until cream. Temperature adjust this to within 5°C of the must by gradually
and slowly stirring in cold water to the rehydrated yeast, add this to the must and mix thoroughly before leaving to
ferment at 20-24 °C.

Storage

Sachets should be stored in a cool, dry place away from direct sunlight. If stored correctly, the yeast will have a shelf
life of 24 months from date of manufacture. Store in a dry, odour free environment at a constant temperature ideally
below 20°C. Once opened the contents should be used immediately. Use by best before date stamped on the packaging.
Young’s yeast sachets are packed into the highest grade quality laminate material providing a complete gas and
moisture barrier.

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This material is non-hazardous when used as directed. Young’s yeasts are free from allergens and
free from genetically modified organisms or materials derived from genetically modified organisms.

So, while they might have been able to make it a bit briefer, but with more detail, similar to how you find the listing in the Lallemand yeast chart, for their "offerings", but I'm not goiing to moan. It's the best bit of info I've seen about a Youngs product for some time. Their generic listings do piss me off....... it's not like it's any kind of proprietary trade secret !

But thanks very much to Stasis, over at Gotmead for the info. Very much appreciated.